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Email adressé à Oniros par Robert Lord le 3/2/2002
I'd like to take part in your investigations (I have had brief lucid dreams using the Laberge flashing lights and goggles, but am not advanced).
What interests me is the intermittent continuously running waking dream, which seems run in parallel but on different themes and different locations while I'm conscious (I have not learned to control the process as yet, but wonder if it has anything to do with aging).
I have read about WILDS.
Please contact me if you would like me to remain touch. I am a linguist, not a psychologist.
Si vous êtes intéressé par ce sujet de recherche, vous pouvez contacter directement le (Prof.) Robert LORD.
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Steve
Jenson
Subject : Lucid Dream Research
Date : Sun, 14 Apr 2002
Greetings,
I have long been interested in Lucid dreaming and
would like to assist you in any research you may be conducting. You will be
happy to know I have read all of the published works of Stephen LaBerge. I
have also had a chance to use Dr. Laberge's techniques to successfully induce
lucid dreams. You may also be happy to know that I have completed a Bachelor
of Arts Degree in Psychology at the University of Missouri St. Louis.
I would
be very interested in becoming involved with any research you may be conducting.
I would also appreciate any tips you can offer to help me find more material
related to Lucid Dreaming. In particular I am interested in actual empirical
studies where every possible measure has been taken to ensure the validity
of the results. Of course this can be quite difficult when studying this type
of phenomenon. Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from
you in the future.
Steve Jensen, United States of America (314) 922-4585
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Parisa
Rahimian
Subject : Lucid dreaming research
Date : Sun, 28 Apr 2002
Hello,
I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA, although I am originally
from Iran.
I speak farsi and english and very little arabic but unfortunatly
no french. I have always loved the language though, I do not know how much
I wrote you about my experiences. Any way it all started in middle school,
probably about 10 years ago. I started thinking about dream world and real
world, and about how they are in many ways similar. I started wondering, how
do I know at a given moment if I am dreaming or awake. beacuse when youa dreaming
you do not know it so if you are dreaming right now you would not know it
right ?! well my mind was very occupied with this concept, and after a while
i started asking the same question in my dreams, like when i was awake. sometimes
I could find somthing illogical in my dreams and Iwould kind of know that
i am dreaming, but it would go away fast. i felt my mind playing tricks all
those illogical thing felt logic in my dream. finally on night i became totaly
lucid in my dream. it did not go away. I was 100% sure that i was dreaming.
I could remmember everything. but nothing else changed in my dream everything
went going on and that freaked me out. because i though i know i am dreaming
and these are all in my mind so why I do not have any control over it ? and
i could not wake up. I did not know how !! I told my mom that I was dreaming
and this is not real and she called me crazy in my own dream !!! ny way I finally
concentrated so hard to wake up and I did. that was the first time. how ever
every time that I had the experience it was kind of diffrent. for example
one time for the first time after becomming lucid i could make every thing
go away or come back. I could go to a black hole of nothingness. Any way,
yes I am very interested. But where are you doing research and how ?
—
Tamas Bognar
Subject : lucid dreams
Date : Mon, 6 May 2002
Dear Researchers,
I've read about your lucid dream researches
in your Website. I wish to get more information about lucid dream researches.
I'm a beginer (re-starter lucid dream practitioner) and I used to practice
this technics following Prof. Paul Tholey's popular book. I make effort to
get practised in this nowadays. I am interested in the technics to make the
dream conscious, and making contact with the parts of the personality in dreams
. Tamás Bognár
Bognár Tamás
20/912-7887
(+361) 468-3195
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Boris Nadolinny
Valeur précognitive
des rêves
Friday, 26 Jul 2002
Dear Sir,
I have gathered a lot of serious materials in field of the problems of dreams
I woulf like to share some of it in brief here. It is well known that some events in
the life of the society and lives of its separate representatives are programmed.
I managed to decode the mechanism of planning future events in the life of
an individual. One receives signals carrying information about future events
when he is sleeping, but it's possible to receive signals staying awake. 'J
The information in the form of analogue signals entering the organism of a
man comes through special filters and then gets into the brain and karma.
Time of fulfilling events corresponding to the analogue signals is defined
by the set of parameters changing in the time, which characterize conductivity
and other qualities of the filter, and parameters of receiving signal. The
thoughts of an individual are usually also resulted from incoming information
about future events involving individual. But this information can be recorded
into the karma only under certain conditions unlike in case with the dreams
which are recorded into the karma as long as they income. The information
entered the brain is then transformed into visual symbols, but these visions
don't correspond unambiguously to the future events, but deciphered by means
of specific codes. Information recorded into karma comes true in the period
ranging from several seconds to about 18 years. But 70% of it comes true within
5 months and 98% - within 13 months I found the complex of equations according
to which I can calculate the time of realizing future events from the moment
of recording information into the karma caused by dreams or other sources
of incoming information to its transition into corresponding events. Per these
calculations I need the following information: - date, time and year of birth
of the family members living together; - places of birth and place of residence
in the present time; - date and time of seeing a dream and which of the family
members saw it; - description of a dream.
Send your data with interesting dreams and I will be able to calculate when
they are to come true in 95% of cases, and also interpret future events corresponding
to the dreams. I have several published and unpublished articles in Russian on what I have written above, which "cover the question in the spot much wider,
and in particular describe experiments on the opportunities of changing planned
events by the recording of the information into karma in "synthetic'' way.
If it is interesting for you I could send my articles to you. But in my articles
I don't give detailed description of the mechanism of planning events by a
separate individual since it must be proved by carrying out careful experiments
that it is impossible to be used in inhuman aims.
P-.S. : a mistake calculate the time of realizing future events 1-3 days for
95% cases.
Best regards !
—
Lawrence Shelley
Subject : Lucid dreaming
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002
Hello,
I am a graduate student in photography in the US. Please pardon me for not writing in French. I don't think I could express myself properly if I were to write in French. I am writing to ask for some help. My work in photography involves making photos designed as visual cues to help incubate lucid dreams. Then, I make other photos based on tasks I carry out in the lucid dreams and combine the series together. I am presently trying to devise a grant idea for the "Fulbright program". The grant is designed to allow US citizens to travel for one year to carry out a project. I am interested in contacting people who are avidly interested in lucidity. I am interested in studying with a particular group, or person, who can help me develop my skills as a dreamer. I am also interested in collaborating with other artists who do work based on lucid dreams, whether visual art, performance or music. Is anyone from your group able to recommend a particular person or group I may be able to contact in order to help me define what I may be able to do ? I have to eventually be in contact with an institution (whether a school, museum or even a religious order) or a professional person, who is in some way connected with lucid dreaming. Any advice would be very helpful. Thanks so much for your time-
Shelley Lawrence
—
20 Sept 2002
From Boris Nadolinny
Extracts from my unpublished article
The algoritm improvement of a health or cure your children
by God by method record of information in karma.
More than 95% of night dreams bear information or predict future, the rest
being simply noise.
Events may be planned for a long or a short term. Long-term events are fundamental,
sometimes have future prolongation and are launched according to plan somewhere
in the depth of Galaxy. As to short-term events, they execute in the very
day of dream and are planned in terrestrial sphere.
Thoughts of a person are dictated from above. Under certain circumstances
they are brought to his karma and realized in the form of future events as
well as dreams. Night dreams are thoughts dictated when one sleeps.
Long-term events cannot be averted at the last stage.
However, one may plan some additional events in his life with consent of supreme
forces which can make an alternative to undesired events. It is connect it with following.
Supraphysical worlds are low-enegetic, they function with a small energy consumption.
So, the origin of an event at physical plane does not require much energy.
A signal from Information Bank (IB) where our future is written down comes
to one's brain and causes certain images there. Then this information is brought
in his karma and later realized as an appropriate event.
And visa versa, to bring a similar event to IB and karma inner sight must
reproduce an image similar to that induced by an analog signal. As a result,
a person emits a signal at least similar to the initial analog signal, and
this would be written down to IB and karma.
Such planning is possible for personal and family life. The reason is that
capacity of a signal originated by a preson during recording to karma is actually
equal to that of external signal. However, capacity of the signal emitted
by the person is insufficient to be sent to all customers participating in
a certain event.
As any event, human diseases are also caused by either long-term or short-term
planning.
The former case belongs to space planning, i.e. planned by Supreme Forces.
Unjust human fates, including diseases, are caused by the fact that people
are not independent, they are simply small parts of a complicated Mechanism
which consists of at least a plurality of terrestrial bramphature worlds.
The God does not track the fate of separate humans, animals, plants, extraterrestrial
beings. His business is keeping of Mechanism as a whole by ensuring progress
in its improvement upon certain informative parameters characteristic of its
essence.
This Mechanism is cruel to skeletal events (i.e. certain fundamental events
cannot be changed), but flexible in many details. Quite a proven fact is that
it is God who must blame for our diseases, grieves, tragedies, wars, etc.
But humans should not wail on their meek fate. They themselves acting according
to the program of Supreme Forces created unbearable conditions for existence
of their minor brothers. And similar conditions were made for them, some extraterrestrial
civilizations participating.
By the way, can you find a single priest, bishop or high church executive
who would be healed by God's help, though so many parishioners prayed for
them ? Quite unlikely. And that is another argument that the God never interferes
with particular operations of the Mechanism. He has not saved even Jesus.
Though, this is a generalized concept of Mechanism operation. Some flexibility
is still inherent in it.
Speaking again of health of a single person, I must note that short-time events
connected to diseases are subject to God's messengers and may be changed by
them. It must be specified that even some space-planned events may be cancelled
by God's messengers for particular grades of persons.
By the way, Supreme Foreces cannot heal a person by themselves, they may either
advise him the way of treatment or increase of drugs efficiency, or enter to his karma a chain of events due to which he would supposedly
by himself find people who can heal him. Particular persons may be, for instance,
children and their parents. As karmas of a mother and her child are closely
interwined, it is sufficient for mother to enter a signal corresponding to
her child's health improvement or healing to her karma.
I cannot submit a particular algorithm how to enter to karma at least a health
improvement for child urbi et orbi issuing from certain philosophical premises.
Nevertheless, I can send it for free to everybody in need.
Boris Nadolinnyy
Post address : 62403 Ukraine Kharkiv pos. Babai, Plehanov Street,
23 Telephone: 380-0572-48-89-3
* Wed, 27 Nov 2002 From : "Boris Nadolinny"
Bonjour Roger Ripert.
If it is possibly will place it on your site, please. A DEATH
and DREAMS. There are several dream models subsequently realizing in the form
of diseases. One of them are people sleeping in a person's night dream. A
known axiom states that dream is a mini-death. It would seem that the older
sleeping person appears in one's dream the closer he is to reincarnation to
another world and the graver disease is planned for him. But, alas, it turns
out to be on the contrary. The younger is the sleeper in one's dream the gravest
future disease is planned for the person or his kin. Why so? In a child's
physical body the astral body has not yet been firmly fixed. The smaller is
the child the easier has astral body spend energy to come out from physical
body. And so if you was dreamed of sleeping a infant then this realizing in
the form of reincarnation to another world. Interesting to note: when one
sees in his dream a sleeper who has already transcended to another world it
means that the person's health condition is planned to improve, because sleep
in another world corresponds to transcendence to a three-dimensional (physical)
world. Some other models correspond to fundamental planning diseases, but
I should not discuss them here.
Boris Nadolinnyy
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* Bimal
kumar
Subject : Dream Research
Date : Mon, 2 Sep 2002 1
Dear sir,
I have come accross the exciting contents of your site and
wish to learn about any ongoing research work on this subject. It is really
wonderful as I was not aware that so much work is going on about the Dream.
I am doing my self study on this subject, or rather experiencing the dreams
for last 10-15 years. I wish to share my experiences in the ongoing reasearch
work.
My study and experiences are basically on the dreams related with premonitions like whatever you see in dream comes exactly true in the subsequent days.I
kindly request you to go through the para down below. I feel that if one can
see the event before it could happen and then witness its happening in reality
indicates that something in us I mean some element in us have the capacity
to go beyond time or can enter into various time zones.
All our physical senses
or present understanding of subject ,indicates only one time zone with in
which one takes birth and decays as all the elements which are bound by time,
has to decay or to change and our body is the live example of it. But during
dream as we all see, sometimes something in us (not the body or other senses
but some other element which is not constrained by time and which does not
follow the rule of decay like our body) cross the time zones and see the things
of other zone as described earlier..The facts of existence of various time
zones and various types of elements as per various zone which all of us are
carrying in ourselves (knowingly or unknowingly), if can be revealed than
half of the miseries of mankind can be solved. There will be no fear of death
or loss of near and dear ones, it is only a transition and further we all
alongwith our whole generations and friends and near and dear ones coexists
simultaneously in various time zones (even we will be able to communiacte
with each other but with new set of rules and means of communication).
These
facts are best revealed/indicated through dreams and a serious research on
this subject is need to be taken up to bring about facts in a physical level
so that a conceptual change/reorientation among the mankind can be visualised
in near future.
I am basically an electrical engineer and presently doing my post graduation
in electrical engg at Indian Institute of Technology at Kharagpur in India. I
shall be grateful if you mail me with details. thanks
Bimal kumar
A205/Gokhle hall of residence IIT
Kharagpur Kharagpur
West Bengal INDIA
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* Val Robertson
Subject : Lucid dreaming volunteer to take part in research
Date : 29/7/2009
Hello,
I have just discovered the oniros site and am a reasonably competent lucid dreamer.
I would love to take part in research.
I live in Bradford, England
Best Regards
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* Louis P. (email du 24/4/10)
Témoignage personnel
• Dans le domaine du sommeil
Enfant je souffrais de difficultés d’endormissement, incapacité de m’endormir avant une certaine heure; il me fallait presque 3h ou 4h pour m’endormir. Problème qui s’est amélioré puis résolu avec les années grâce a plusieurs facteurs : une activité sportive pour dépenser mon énergie physique a réduit sans résoudre le problème, et la découverte d’une passion en 1992 (l’informatique) me faisant m’endormir beaucoup plus tard et me permettant de trouver un pseudo rythme.
Je dors entre 4 et 7 heures maximum par nuit, selon mes besoins, pour une moyenne de 6 heures.
L’heure à laquelle je vais me coucher (qui varie entre minuit et quatre heures du matin) détermine l’heure à laquelle je me lève ensuite le matin.
• Dans le domaine du rêve
Je suis actif dans mes rêves et maîtrise mes déplacements, voir l’environnement dans lequel j’évolue. Mes rêves sont plus proches d’une épopée/aventure fantastique/science-fiction que des situations anodines de la vie de tous les jours.
Dans ces rêves je bénéficie de capacités particulières. Si quand j’étais enfant la seule capacité était de voler, avec le temps elles sont devenues sans limites. Elles m’ont permis par ailleurs, dans bon nombre de cas, d’être le moyen de faire un rêve lucide (d’avoir conscience d’être dans un rêve) par une simple phrase que je me dis dans le rêve : «Je peux faire ces choses incroyables, donc je suis forcément dans un rêve».
Par chance, je me souviens au réveil de la plupart de mes rêves, sans quoi je serais incapable d’écrire ces lignes en ce moment.
• Dans le domaine du rêve lucide
Si je devais raconter ou faire part de mes expériences je dirais qu’une fois qu'on a atteint un état de conscience, qu’un début de pensée rationnelle se met en route, on peut réfléchir à des choses réservées normalement à l’état de veille.
Si je devais qualifier ou caractériser le rêve lucide, je dirais que c’est un peu comme réfléchir quand on a bu de l’alcool ou que l’on est dans un état second. Si l’on peut réfléchir et penser, la réflexion n’est pas exactement la même qu’à l’état éveillé.
Au contraire, il arrive parfois que des pensées qui ne sont pas illogiques surviennent rapidement et fassent l'objet d’une réflexion que je n’aurais très probablement pas eue éveillé. Est-ce le subconscient ? Je ne sais pas.
Certains rêves lucides permettent une grande clarté d'esprit sur la réalité et des conclusions logiques, mais parfois se mélangent à la pensée rationnelle et au réel de l’imaginaire (souvenir ou certitude qui ne sont pas réels).
Si l’accès à la mémoire m’est possible, réfléchir et penser m’est aussi possible. Savoir que je suis dans un rêve est acquis, mais la notion de temps et de date m’ont été inaccessibles pendant des années.
C’est seulement il y a trois ans, à l’approche du nouvel an, que dans un rêve lucide j’ai pu me poser, réfléchir et situer la date. Expérience que j’ai pu renouveler ensuite deux fois, mais que je n’ai pas recherchée depuis.
J’ai aussi mené quelques expériences dans certains rêves lucides sur le contrôle de mon environnement ou sa modification. Seulement, je ne fais pas des rêves lucides sur commande, et il m'a donc fallu plusieurs tentatives pour y parvenir.
S’il m’est naturel de voler, traverser les murs, faire apparaître des objets, se téléporter, il est plus facile de le faire dans le contexte d’une histoire liée à un rêve et à une situation que sans raison au milieu de nulle part et que si cela n’a aucune utilité. Comme si le fait de savoir que «ce n’est pas possible en réalité», me limitait alors à des capacités physiques, bloquant la modification de mon environnement.
Dans la plupart des cas, faire un rêve lucide est une expérience agréable, qui amène souvent au réveil un sentiment heureux.
Il m’est arrivé aussi d’avoir quelques troubles du sommeil dans certains cas et, seulement depuis les quatre dernières années, d’avoir vécu plusieurs fois des «paralysie du sommeil». Le contexte est toujours le même : moment de fatigue, moment ou il fait nuit noire (mes horaires m’amènent souvent à dormir au petit matin et un peu de lumière pénètre la maison), endormissement sur le dos (je dors naturellement sur le ventre);
Vivant dans un pays chaud (quand je suis sans couverture), il m'arrive de me réveiller et de me sentir paralysé, incapable de bouger, mais conscient de mon environnement, et de sentir une présence, d’entendre murmurer ou avoir l’impression qu’on me parle, et quand je prends conscience que je n’arrive pas à bouger commence une lutte pour rester éveillé et c’est là que la situation désagréable commence réellement car je lutte pour rester éveillé et me sens comme aspiré par le sommeil.
J’aurais beaucoup de choses à raconter sur ce genre d’expériences, mais les expériences vécues sur ce sujet ne sont pas toujours des plus agréables.
La vie de tous les jours et les rêves
Il m’est arrivé que des problèmes ou des situations de la vie de tous les jours se reportent en rêve, et me montrent le chemin, voire la solution.
Si aujourd'hui j'ai une vingtaine d'années, ce genre de phénomènes remontent à mon enfance.
C’est ainsi qu’un soir des mes 12 ans, je me suis couché, préoccupé par un problème technique et informatique, et que j’ai rêvé que je continuais à explorer le problème et que la solution m’est apparue en rêve, alors que pendant une journée complète éveillée je ne l’avais pas trouvée.
Le plus étonnant c’est que la solution que j’ai vue en rêve faisait appel à des notions que je n’avais pas encore !
Dans un autre domaine, et je ne sais pas si on peut parler de rêve prémonitoire, il m’est arrivé de rêver à l’avance avec une extrême précision. de certaines choses qui se sont passées ensuite. La seule explication scientifique que j’ai sur ce phénomène, c’est que mon travail m’oblige lors de la conception d’une application à imaginer tous les cas de figure et en prévoir les moindres possibilités. Je ne suis donc pas surpris que mon esprit en rêve en fasse de même en effectuant une simulation des éventualités et me fasse rêver ce qui est le plus «possible» avec un discernement dont mon esprit conscient serait incapable.
Dans certains cas il m’arrive de comprendre comment fonctionne mon esprit et à partir de quoi je suis arrivé à tel ou tel résultat, mais dans d’autres cela demeure un profond mystère.
Dans le domaine éveillé se passent deux phénomènes qu’à ce jour je ne comprends pas totalement
Le premier phénomène est une sorte de «dédoublement de l’esprit, ou état peut-être hypnotique»
Mon travail m’amène souvent à faire «de nombreuses choses en même temps», des choses qui se succèdent les unes aux autres et à travailler en «multi tâches».
Dans un état de concentration extrême, et pendant que je travaille, il arrive que ma petite amie vienne me parler, étant occupé mais ne souhaitant pas être asocial il m’arrive de lui parler en même temps que mon esprit fait preuve d'une grande concentration.
Et là se produit parfois un phénomène assez spectaculaire : j’ai été capable de répondre à des questions simples (oui ou non), comme de tenir une longue conversation avec de vraies phrases «sans en être pleinement conscient». Ce que je veux dire par là, c’est que je n’ai aucun souvenir de ce qui a été dit, comme si «un automate» avait répondu à ma place avec en exprimant en grande partie ce que j’aurais dit si j’avais été conscient des questions et du dialogue.
Je me rends parfois compte de ce phénomène après coup en demandant à mon amie : «Es-tu venu me parler tout à l’heure et qu’avons-nous dit ou ai-je rêvé ?».
Assez caricatural, il m’arrive de sortir de cet état qui est toujours lié à mon activité professionnelle et me rendre compte de ce phénomène quand elle me pose plusieurs fois la même question et que plusieurs fois la réponse est «non», et qu’elle me repose la question pour essayer d’obtenir un «oui».
Le deuxième phénomène
Dans un autre cadre et dans certains moments, il m’arrive de «prendre une pause dans mon travail» étant mon propre patron et travaillant dans ma maison, je ressens quelquefois le besoin de fermer les yeux, m’allonger quelques minutes pour faire le vide et reprendre ensuite là ou je me suis arrêté.
Dans ces courtes périodes pouvant durer de 5 à 15 minutes, en moyenne, il m’arrive de me sentir comme dans un rêve, mais je suis pourtant éveillé. Je ne sais pas si on peut parler de rêves éveillés, mais mes pensées sont parfois aussi irrationnelles que dans un sommeil profond, et la sensation quand j’en sors est la même que si je viens de me réveiller (léger engourdissement). La seule chose qui me permet de dire que je n'ai pas «dormi» c’est qu’il me faut moins d’une minute pour revenir à la réalité et que j’ai plus ou moins contrôlé la «sortie», et que j'ai conscience de mon environnement.
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